only1rara
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by only1rara on Sept 10, 2009 13:18:58 GMT 1, Boo - I just missed out on getting his 4 soup cans orignal  With all this Madonna fuss and his London show in Dec anywhere I can get another soup can original?
Any help would be briliant...thanks
R
Boo - I just missed out on getting his 4 soup cans orignal With all this Madonna fuss and his London show in Dec anywhere I can get another soup can original? Any help would be briliant...thanks R |
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only1rara
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by only1rara on Sept 10, 2009 14:33:36 GMT 1, Hi thanks for that - I really like it but the one I just missed out on was an original and 4 cans together. I am so annoyed I hesitated!
Hi thanks for that - I really like it but the one I just missed out on was an original and 4 cans together. I am so annoyed I hesitated!
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by wizzy on Sept 10, 2009 15:13:32 GMT 1, Doesnt Rene Gagnon do a version of this?.
Doesnt Rene Gagnon do a version of this?.
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by Daniel Silk on Sept 10, 2009 15:17:01 GMT 1, Doesnt Rene Gagnon do a version of this?.
Yep! - renegagnonfineart.com
The question is - Who did it first? 
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Rene Gagnon
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by Rene Gagnon on Sept 10, 2009 17:08:59 GMT 1, honestly who knows who did what first, although his came out after my print had been around awhile, here is a reference via wooster collective dated March 24, 2006
scroll down to the bottom.
www.woostercollective.com/masthead/
new big graffiti soup canvases via my site.
www.renegagnonfineart.com
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twist65
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by twist65 on Sept 10, 2009 17:29:26 GMT 1, surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =]
surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =]
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njr911
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by njr911 on Sept 10, 2009 17:35:37 GMT 1, does he have his own ideas ?
does he have his own ideas ?
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only1rara
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by only1rara on Sept 10, 2009 17:42:23 GMT 1, Sorry but so what if the subject has been done time and time again by different artists! The MBW piece was completely unique up close. Skulls have been done to death (no pun intended) but I would still want to see individual artists interpretation.
Sorry but so what if the subject has been done time and time again by different artists! The MBW piece was completely unique up close. Skulls have been done to death (no pun intended) but I would still want to see individual artists interpretation.
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by snausages on Sept 10, 2009 18:20:06 GMT 1, surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =]
surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =] Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by bojangles on Sept 10, 2009 18:53:23 GMT 1, rara, i've recently been offered an original canvas of brainwash's. i don't have an image to hand right now but i'll get one and post it on here for you to see. It's not the soupcans tho unfortunately 
let me know or pm me
rara, i've recently been offered an original canvas of brainwash's. i don't have an image to hand right now but i'll get one and post it on here for you to see. It's not the soupcans tho unfortunately let me know or pm me |
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bojangles
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by bojangles on Sept 10, 2009 19:01:01 GMT 1, surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =] Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others?
i agree with you snausages, there is a strong element of hypocracy & not just on here either and not just regarding Brainwash. i'm just a believer in 'you like what you like' and if you prefer a gagnon soup spraycan to a brainwash great, if you hate both great, if you love both....you can see where this is going!
it is somewhat paradoxical that people apply a high art pretention surrounding the idea of appropriation in art to street/graffiti art, which couldn't be further away from high art - no one can be original.
surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =] Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? i agree with you snausages, there is a strong element of hypocracy & not just on here either and not just regarding Brainwash. i'm just a believer in 'you like what you like' and if you prefer a gagnon soup spraycan to a brainwash great, if you hate both great, if you love both....you can see where this is going! it is somewhat paradoxical that people apply a high art pretention surrounding the idea of appropriation in art to street/graffiti art, which couldn't be further away from high art - no one can be original. |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by Francis on Sept 10, 2009 19:06:56 GMT 1, perhaps the reason mr brainwash gets so much crap is because he is french and french people are always so smelly
perhaps the reason mr brainwash gets so much crap is because he is french and french people are always so smelly
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junta
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by junta on Sept 10, 2009 19:33:20 GMT 1, surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =] Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others?
gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources.
Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image... 
surely no-ones saying that MBW likes to use other peoples ideas?! =] Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image... |
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Francis
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by Francis on Sept 10, 2009 19:35:41 GMT 1, Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image...
don't hold onto hope. it'll all end in tears
Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image... don't hold onto hope. it'll all end in tears |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by rosstierney on Sept 11, 2009 14:34:18 GMT 1, why have soup when you can have bowie for $7,500:
www.mrbrainwash.com/buy.html
new prints too
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2009 15:04:12 GMT 1, Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image...
Are you people crazy?
There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something.
And Yep, of course the "Proud Parents" parents have been taken from an old image, and their baby replaced with a bomb. Good idea, and one Banksy's done too... in exactly the same way.
Of course he does, that's his shtick. But how would MBW here be different than Shepard Fairey stealing Mr Spray from an old illustrated advertisement (for just one of many examples.) Why is it tolerated when some people rip off but not others? gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image... Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something. And Yep, of course the "Proud Parents" parents have been taken from an old image, and their baby replaced with a bomb. Good idea, and one Banksy's done too... in exactly the same way. |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by nex on Sept 11, 2009 15:24:36 GMT 1, bah! next you'll be telling me that Faile don't hand draw all their images?
and that logan doesn't handcut all his stencils
and that Dolk isn't in fact Banksy
and that Dface isn't any good
bah! next you'll be telling me that Faile don't hand draw all their images?
and that logan doesn't handcut all his stencils
and that Dolk isn't in fact Banksy
and that Dface isn't any good
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by motor on Sept 11, 2009 15:26:16 GMT 1, Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something.
Spot on HS!
And this applies to many, many more wannabes. So many of them milking the cow without even trying to make some effort, or bringing some new fresh ideas on the table.
Sure everyone is taking some inspiration from another to some degree but enough is enough please.
Boring, Boring, Boring!
Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something. Spot on HS! And this applies to many, many more wannabes. So many of them milking the cow without even trying to make some effort, or bringing some new fresh ideas on the table. Sure everyone is taking some inspiration from another to some degree but enough is enough please. Boring, Boring, Boring! |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by bojangles on Sept 11, 2009 16:13:46 GMT 1, Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something. enough is enough please. Boring, Boring, Boring!
do you not think though we have just been over exposed to the cult of celebrity to such an extent that an image of a so-called 'celebrity' does seem boring? We are not familiar on a large scale of propaganda artwork therefore we do not know whether Obey has merely copied an image or 'subverted' it and possibly enhanced it.
Maybe in the former communist states where the style of poster is very much like Obey's, when they have seen his work, they think 'same old - 'that's a complete rip-off' boring, boring, boring.
Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something. enough is enough please. Boring, Boring, Boring! do you not think though we have just been over exposed to the cult of celebrity to such an extent that an image of a so-called 'celebrity' does seem boring? We are not familiar on a large scale of propaganda artwork therefore we do not know whether Obey has merely copied an image or 'subverted' it and possibly enhanced it. Maybe in the former communist states where the style of poster is very much like Obey's, when they have seen his work, they think 'same old - 'that's a complete rip-off' boring, boring, boring. |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by junta on Sept 11, 2009 16:14:42 GMT 1, gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image... Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something. And Yep, of course the "Proud Parents" parents have been taken from an old image, and their baby replaced with a bomb. Good idea, and one Banksy's done too... in exactly the same way.
ah no, im not saying they're the same. I still have respect for shep as hes so prolific on the street, not to mention all the causes he supports. Brainwash I am not a fan of.
Of course people reference other images, the worlds a better place for it, i do it myself! but SOME of sheps stuff has been directly lifted with nothing substantial being altered, simply OBEY or a border added, I was hoping with proud parents that wasn't the case and perhaps, like you said, the bomb was slotted in... or something, subverting the image- which is the point.
this article is very biased against shep but it does illustrate some examples where he's been rather quick to recycle images without nods to a source or significantly changing anything www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm
and no im not crazy, the pills took care of that
gutted when i found out he'd used all those preexisting images, especially as id just read supply and demand at the time and there's hardly any mention of sources. Does anybody know was 'proud parents' lifted from anywhere? its my only shep and my favourite shep so Im clinging to the hope that its an original image... Are you people crazy? There is a vast difference between Shepard Fairey taking, and subverting, an existing image or advert and someone (maybe Mr Brainwash) just copying something. And Yep, of course the "Proud Parents" parents have been taken from an old image, and their baby replaced with a bomb. Good idea, and one Banksy's done too... in exactly the same way. ah no, im not saying they're the same. I still have respect for shep as hes so prolific on the street, not to mention all the causes he supports. Brainwash I am not a fan of. Of course people reference other images, the worlds a better place for it, i do it myself! but SOME of sheps stuff has been directly lifted with nothing substantial being altered, simply OBEY or a border added, I was hoping with proud parents that wasn't the case and perhaps, like you said, the bomb was slotted in... or something, subverting the image- which is the point. this article is very biased against shep but it does illustrate some examples where he's been rather quick to recycle images without nods to a source or significantly changing anything www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm and no im not crazy, the pills took care of that |
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Mr Brainwash soup cans, by bert on Sept 11, 2009 16:19:26 GMT 1, His work isn't to my tastes, but the thing I find crazy is how over priced it appears to be. Do people really pay that much money for it?
His work isn't to my tastes, but the thing I find crazy is how over priced it appears to be. Do people really pay that much money for it?
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With all this Madonna fuss and his London show in Dec anywhere I can get another soup can original?
