Urban Art Association

what dan said???

Very sad to hear that, some very nice art lovers out there and some not so nice. I have had 3 deals in last 4 weeks(4 prints) 2 arrived a1 other 2 arrived in an sos tube, not so good. Comms from seller were quite bad after money had been sent, think he was holding out for more money the bay which did not happen. It's a shame really. I will post the names of the first two shortly on this thread as he deals went very smoothly. On my phone on back door step.
Sorry again to hear your problems please keep us updated in whatever you decide to do.

Reminds me. This week its the 6 months anniversary for when i purchased a print from a well known forum member. Still waiting..
Give me a trophy in patientsy.

Hope you sorts out your issue.
Not many deals that go bad in this industry, but boring when it first does.

Bye e'ck mate, that really takes the piss, think it's about time you got your money back.

Agree with Fingerz, you need to protect the other collectors from experiencing the same. Maybe email the guy first and just let him know that his reputation may suffer and if nothing is resolved, I think warning others would be appropriate. Wish you all the best in getting this sorted and hope this doesn't dissuade you from the hobby/dealing with others as I think even with the negative Karma and bullshit that occurs here, most of us are pretty honorable and stand-up individuals

Haha fingerz no
I am a patient person, and i do make sure to warn others in private when i see they gets connected to this person.
But he seems like a nice guy and it does not scare me away from this hobby itinidale, but i really appreciate your concerns.
Before any beans are spilled, he will have the last word or 1 year will have to pass.

I still feel this forum is 100% safe and maybe the best place to learn/discuss/trade/buy art.

Gotta name and shame to help out other members that could sell fall victim in my opinion. Sounds out of order to me from the story you've told.

Thanks for the comments! The person has got back in touch and has said, they did not know about tear marks on the back of the print (which I'm finding hard to believe as it would have been very noticeable when rolling the print for postage). I have asked that I want my print back as the one he sent was not mint as he described. He says he cannot as he has just sent the print for bespoke framing at a cost of £212 which he has paid for upfront!!!

He has asked for pictures of the damage (I am not home at the moment) but I will and will post on this forum tomorrow.

You can judge for yourselves, if I am out or order in being disatisfied with the damage or not, and then I will name the person.

It seems that I can't have the option of getting my print back, even though I have done nothing wrong.

Sounds like he's trying it on. Thats not your problem at all. At the end of the day, he led you to believe the print was mint and it isn't.

Agree with the posts above.
Sixpac and sfinks please post forum names so others can be aware.

It's the sh1t side of collecting and to help others best to give name and details.

i read this thread with interest and amusement in equal measure.

there is no need to 'name and shame' for zippy or iamzero, sixpac. i'll do that myself.

in the spirit of cooperation and disclosure i'll publish the last few email exchanges between me and sixpac.
they do say that every story has 2 sides, and this one has been played out so wonderfully one sided so far, that maybe people will be interested to have a read for themselves before calling for my blood....

i bought the print on the secondary market and it has been in the portfolio since i had it.
i was not aware of any damage.
i checked the front of the print only.
i have not ignored sixpac's emails - i responded the day after an email was sent to ask for the paypal receipt.
i then received a very strangely worded email.
i've requested pictures of the damage but have not seen them yet or had an email response from sixpac.
i offered to pay for the damage to be repaired as a goodwill gesture.
i've not refused to exchange the print. have simply said that i've already taken it to the framers and paid for framing.
no mention of any of this is made above.
this all happened before i was aware of this thread.
what i also find strange is that sixpac also posted a wtb thtread for the same print as traded with me just after we did this trade agreement.
this was the first and last trade i'll ever do.

anyway, here is the email thread. i've taken out personal information such as email addresses and sixpac's name etc.
get the popcorn out sixpac. my offer of paying for the damage still stands.

hopefully no 'visits' will be needed to resolve the issue. i would have much preferred to keep this between sixpac and myself, but it seems that she has time to seek some one sided validation from the internet rather than acknowledge my emails currently.
so i thought i'd do the same.

Apart from the fact that it took me 2 mails from the end to realise that the email exchange was pasted in reverse chronological order, I believe that Sven has been fairly amicable, if not a little slack in inspecting the print. Not only before this trade, but also the previous transaction.
Fancy buying a print and not checking it out, ie looking at it.

Obviously a business transaction that purchase Sven.

Terry Tibbs would be proud of your work!

What can I say? I'm no detective obviously!
The print looked fine from the front. As i said I'm genuinely unaware of any marks detrimental to the print and it's apparent flip value...

Your defo out of order sending that print as mint if tape damaged and your a muppet for saying you didnt see it....