sfnyc
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by sfnyc on May 17, 2019 22:41:38 GMT 1, There are tons of lost works out there... and many more forgeries... so who knows till more analysis is done
There are tons of lost works out there... and many more forgeries... so who knows till more analysis is done
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 17, 2019 22:56:51 GMT 1, There are tons of lost works out there... and many more forgeries... so who knows till more analysis is done For Picasso there is no analysis done. It's all down to the whim of Claude or Maya Picasso who decide it's genuine or not.
New canvas stapled onto hardboard and the signature definately not by the hand of Picasso. The i is too close to the P for one thing. The line below the name is too close to the bottom of the letters too.
There are sleepers out there to be found for sure but the problem is that if an outsider finds a major artwork. Some authenticators can be corrupt or dishonest and refuse to authenticate it. Auction house experts can missatribute an artwork to a lesser artist too which means the art sells for massively under true value.
There are tons of lost works out there... and many more forgeries... so who knows till more analysis is done For Picasso there is no analysis done. It's all down to the whim of Claude or Maya Picasso who decide it's genuine or not. New canvas stapled onto hardboard and the signature definately not by the hand of Picasso. The i is too close to the P for one thing. The line below the name is too close to the bottom of the letters too. There are sleepers out there to be found for sure but the problem is that if an outsider finds a major artwork. Some authenticators can be corrupt or dishonest and refuse to authenticate it. Auction house experts can missatribute an artwork to a lesser artist too which means the art sells for massively under true value.
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d.r. perseus
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by d.r. perseus on May 18, 2019 1:54:07 GMT 1, Makes me feel better after getting barf on the bottom of one of my canvases. Condition doesnโt seem to be an issue.
Really? Thatโs it? Story mofo
Makes me feel better after getting barf on the bottom of one of my canvases. Condition doesnโt seem to be an issue. Really? Thatโs it? Story mofo
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 9:42:22 GMT 1, It has some interesting details but without any proper provenance I cannot see it being considered a genuine Picasso. I'm no expert but if it belonged to Roland Penrose then it should have some Penrose-related historical evidence, shouldn't it?
It has some interesting details but without any proper provenance I cannot see it being considered a genuine Picasso. I'm no expert but if it belonged to Roland Penrose then it should have some Penrose-related historical evidence, shouldn't it?
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Pattycakes
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Pattycakes on May 18, 2019 12:06:47 GMT 1, It is not real, the area with the collection Picasso on the reverse is very suspicious, and the dedication Roland Penrose (as reported elsewhere) is spurious. Penrose was extremely proud of his collection and it was well documented, the Penrose family do not recognise this painting, it is not recorded anywhere in his notes and is missing from any photographs of the collection. Good copy, but a copy it is.
It is not real, the area with the collection Picasso on the reverse is very suspicious, and the dedication Roland Penrose (as reported elsewhere) is spurious. Penrose was extremely proud of his collection and it was well documented, the Penrose family do not recognise this painting, it is not recorded anywhere in his notes and is missing from any photographs of the collection. Good copy, but a copy it is.
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Gunny
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Gunny on May 18, 2019 12:12:51 GMT 1, It has had a lot of press and this is the idea to create interest that someone might get a bargain. The fact it is being sold at a small auction house says a lot. Also, the seller won't spend a few thousand for paint analysis, the Penrose estate don't recognise it and no-one important with any real insight is showing an interest pretty much means this is not the real deal.
Clever play by the seller and the auction house to make a bit of dough though!
It has had a lot of press and this is the idea to create interest that someone might get a bargain. The fact it is being sold at a small auction house says a lot. Also, the seller won't spend a few thousand for paint analysis, the Penrose estate don't recognise it and no-one important with any real insight is showing an interest pretty much means this is not the real deal.
Clever play by the seller and the auction house to make a bit of dough though!
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rebate
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by rebate on May 18, 2019 14:53:52 GMT 1, i see one big red flag with it. It seems to be covered in little details that are aiming at prov, but there are just to many of these "little indicators" on one piece. too good to be true on that basis, and my gut just says fake, which i wouldnt ignore if i was buying something. Also if the Penrose connection is denied, then its toast in my eyes.
Its been claimed by a well known forger, but the auction house want him to prove it. Which i guess may be a little tricky if he likes fresh air and seeing the sun. Although he already said he did it, so not sure about that part. Bit weird though.
i see one big red flag with it. It seems to be covered in little details that are aiming at prov, but there are just to many of these "little indicators" on one piece. too good to be true on that basis, and my gut just says fake, which i wouldnt ignore if i was buying something. Also if the Penrose connection is denied, then its toast in my eyes.
Its been claimed by a well known forger, but the auction house want him to prove it. Which i guess may be a little tricky if he likes fresh air and seeing the sun. Although he already said he did it, so not sure about that part. Bit weird though.
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 19, 2019 1:28:59 GMT 1, i see one big red flag with it. It seems to be covered in little details that are aiming at prov, but there are just to many of these "little indicators" on one piece. too good to be true on that basis, and my gut just says fake, which i wouldnt ignore if i was buying something. Also if the Penrose connection is denied, then its toast in my eyes. Its been claimed by a well known forger, but the auction house want him to prove it. Which i guess may be a little tricky if he likes fresh air and seeing the sun. Although he already said he did it, so not sure about that part. Bit weird though. Which well known forger?
i see one big red flag with it. It seems to be covered in little details that are aiming at prov, but there are just to many of these "little indicators" on one piece. too good to be true on that basis, and my gut just says fake, which i wouldnt ignore if i was buying something. Also if the Penrose connection is denied, then its toast in my eyes. Its been claimed by a well known forger, but the auction house want him to prove it. Which i guess may be a little tricky if he likes fresh air and seeing the sun. Although he already said he did it, so not sure about that part. Bit weird though. Which well known forger?
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rebate
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by rebate on May 19, 2019 9:22:47 GMT 1, i see one big red flag with it. It seems to be covered in little details that are aiming at prov, but there are just to many of these "little indicators" on one piece. too good to be true on that basis, and my gut just says fake, which i wouldnt ignore if i was buying something. Also if the Penrose connection is denied, then its toast in my eyes. Its been claimed by a well known forger, but the auction house want him to prove it. Which i guess may be a little tricky if he likes fresh air and seeing the sun. Although he already said he did it, so not sure about that part. Bit weird though. Which well known forger? Ill give you a clue, it WASNT Jeremy Corbyn. Now go look for your lazy arse self.
i see one big red flag with it. It seems to be covered in little details that are aiming at prov, but there are just to many of these "little indicators" on one piece. too good to be true on that basis, and my gut just says fake, which i wouldnt ignore if i was buying something. Also if the Penrose connection is denied, then its toast in my eyes. Its been claimed by a well known forger, but the auction house want him to prove it. Which i guess may be a little tricky if he likes fresh air and seeing the sun. Although he already said he did it, so not sure about that part. Bit weird though. Which well known forger? Ill give you a clue, it WASNT Jeremy Corbyn. Now go look for your lazy arse self.
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shy
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by shy on May 19, 2019 19:18:08 GMT 1, don't waste your time... IMO Fake... if you like it then buy it.
But don't expect any value or any ROI
it's like buying those "attributed too..." paintings in those cheesy small auctions!
SCAM ALERT...
don't waste your time... IMO Fake... if you like it then buy it.
But don't expect any value or any ROI
it's like buying those "attributed too..." paintings in those cheesy small auctions!
SCAM ALERT...
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 19, 2019 21:55:32 GMT 1, Ill give you a clue, it WASNT Jeremy Corbyn. Now go look for your lazy arse self.
David Henty.
He describes himself as a copyist rather than a forger.
The painting in Devon is a copy of a known Picasso.
Ill give you a clue, it WASNT Jeremy Corbyn. Now go look for your lazy arse self. David Henty. He describes himself as a copyist rather than a forger. The painting in Devon is a copy of a known Picasso.
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rebate
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by rebate on May 19, 2019 22:31:25 GMT 1, Ill give you a clue, it WASNT Jeremy Corbyn. Now go look for your lazy arse self. David Henty. He describes himself as a copyist rather than a forger. The painting in Devon is a copy of a known Picasso. Im sure he does, but they jailed him for forgery none the less.
Ill give you a clue, it WASNT Jeremy Corbyn. Now go look for your lazy arse self. David Henty. He describes himself as a copyist rather than a forger. The painting in Devon is a copy of a known Picasso. Im sure he does, but they jailed him for forgery none the less.
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 19, 2019 22:35:57 GMT 1, David Henty. He describes himself as a copyist rather than a forger. The painting in Devon is a copy of a known Picasso. Im sure he does, but they jailed him for forgery none the less. He was jailed for five years for forging passports.
I don't think he was jailed for painting bad copies of famous artworks.
โA friend of ours is a solicitor and I went to see him and said: 'If I have not got provenance is this legal?โ He said it is perfectly legal as long as I donโt produce false documents to go with them. Just to say 'afterโ is fine. It is above the law. You are not representing it as genuine.โ
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10948800/I-churn-out-fake-Lowrys-to-sell-on-eBay-for-thousands-amateur-artist-admits.html
David Henty. He describes himself as a copyist rather than a forger. The painting in Devon is a copy of a known Picasso. Im sure he does, but they jailed him for forgery none the less. He was jailed for five years for forging passports. I don't think he was jailed for painting bad copies of famous artworks. โA friend of ours is a solicitor and I went to see him and said: 'If I have not got provenance is this legal?โ He said it is perfectly legal as long as I donโt produce false documents to go with them. Just to say 'afterโ is fine. It is above the law. You are not representing it as genuine.โ
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10948800/I-churn-out-fake-Lowrys-to-sell-on-eBay-for-thousands-amateur-artist-admits.html
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rebate
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by rebate on May 19, 2019 22:56:06 GMT 1, Im sure he does, but they jailed him for forgery none the less. He was jailed for five years for forging passports. I don't think he was jailed for painting bad copies of famous artworks. โA friend of ours is a solicitor and I went to see him and said: 'If I have not got provenance is this legal?โ He said it is perfectly legal as long as I donโt produce false documents to go with them. Just to say 'afterโ is fine. It is above the law. You are not representing it as genuine.โ
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10948800/I-churn-out-fake-Lowrys-to-sell-on-eBay-for-thousands-amateur-artist-admits.html
Home Page | David Henty Art | Art Forger | United Kingdom www.davidhentyart.co.uk/ One of Britain's best art forgers, David Henty has been called a Master Craftsman of his art with over 30 years experience producing near original copies.
From his own web site.
Im sure he does, but they jailed him for forgery none the less. He was jailed for five years for forging passports. I don't think he was jailed for painting bad copies of famous artworks. โA friend of ours is a solicitor and I went to see him and said: 'If I have not got provenance is this legal?โ He said it is perfectly legal as long as I donโt produce false documents to go with them. Just to say 'afterโ is fine. It is above the law. You are not representing it as genuine.โ
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10948800/I-churn-out-fake-Lowrys-to-sell-on-eBay-for-thousands-amateur-artist-admits.html
Home Page | David Henty Art | Art Forger | United Kingdom www.davidhentyart.co.uk/One of Britain's best art forgers, David Henty has been called a Master Craftsman of his art with over 30 years experience producing near original copies. From his own web site.
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 19, 2019 23:23:25 GMT 1, Home Page | David Henty Art | Art Forger | United Kingdom www.davidhentyart.co.uk/One of Britain's best art forgers, David Henty has been called a Master Craftsman of his art with over 30 years experience producing near original copies. From his own web site. He is describing himself as a best forger on his site in order to get sales and so called notoriety. He is just a bad copyist.
Home Page | David Henty Art | Art Forger | United Kingdom www.davidhentyart.co.uk/One of Britain's best art forgers, David Henty has been called a Master Craftsman of his art with over 30 years experience producing near original copies. From his own web site. He is describing himself as a best forger on his site in order to get sales and so called notoriety. He is just a bad copyist.
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rebate
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by rebate on May 19, 2019 23:25:27 GMT 1, Home Page | David Henty Art | Art Forger | United Kingdom www.davidhentyart.co.uk/One of Britain's best art forgers, David Henty has been called a Master Craftsman of his art with over 30 years experience producing near original copies. From his own web site. He is describing himself as a best forger on his site in order to get sales and so called notoriety. He is just a bad copyist. I thought you said he called himself a copyist.
Home Page | David Henty Art | Art Forger | United Kingdom www.davidhentyart.co.uk/One of Britain's best art forgers, David Henty has been called a Master Craftsman of his art with over 30 years experience producing near original copies. From his own web site. He is describing himself as a best forger on his site in order to get sales and so called notoriety. He is just a bad copyist. I thought you said he called himself a copyist.
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 19, 2019 23:52:02 GMT 1, Surge chief Paul Careless last year set up a business with convicted felon David Henty, a renowned petty criminal and art forger in Brighton, it emerged on Thursday.
Having served jail time for numerous offences including passport and art forgery, Henty sells copycat Picassos, van Goghs and Modiglianis. His career as a passport forger ended in him being jailed for five years in the mid-1990s. He was later also jailed in Spain for selling stolen cars.
"A Careless spokesman said the company, Picasso Before Breakfast, was set up to make a movie of Hentyโs life, to be directed by Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels actor Nick Moran. The movie has not been made, and Henty did not return calls.
Much of the ยฃ237 million raised for LCF went through Top-Isa-Rates. The Capital Bridge promises to pay 9% annual interest to its public investors on its three-year bonds on top of the commission to Surge. That means it has to make massive returns on its investments if it is to make its quarterly dividend payments."
www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/revealed-lcf-agent-still-pulling-in-big-fees-from-high-risk-bonds/ar-BBVPPly?li=AA54rU
Surge chief Paul Careless last year set up a business with convicted felon David Henty, a renowned petty criminal and art forger in Brighton, it emerged on Thursday.
Having served jail time for numerous offences including passport and art forgery, Henty sells copycat Picassos, van Goghs and Modiglianis. His career as a passport forger ended in him being jailed for five years in the mid-1990s. He was later also jailed in Spain for selling stolen cars.
"A Careless spokesman said the company, Picasso Before Breakfast, was set up to make a movie of Hentyโs life, to be directed by Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels actor Nick Moran. The movie has not been made, and Henty did not return calls.
Much of the ยฃ237 million raised for LCF went through Top-Isa-Rates. The Capital Bridge promises to pay 9% annual interest to its public investors on its three-year bonds on top of the commission to Surge. That means it has to make massive returns on its investments if it is to make its quarterly dividend payments." www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/revealed-lcf-agent-still-pulling-in-big-fees-from-high-risk-bonds/ar-BBVPPly?li=AA54rU
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moron
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by moron on May 20, 2019 0:30:06 GMT 1, apparently he is so good and has an eye for detail too.
He got caught forging passports which had the words "Britannic Majesty" wrongly spelled 'Britanicโ and 'Magestyโ. on them.
apparently he is so good and has an eye for detail too. He got caught forging passports which had the words "Britannic Majesty" wrongly spelled 'Britanicโ and 'Magestyโ. on them.
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chevyav53
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by chevyav53 on Nov 19, 2019 17:48:59 GMT 1, more chance of picking up 4 items from the GDP site It's a good cause and a way to donate and maybe win something in return.... Not always about getting
more chance of picking up 4 items from the GDP site It's a good cause and a way to donate and maybe win something in return.... Not always about getting
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Shagga
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Shagga on Nov 20, 2019 10:13:35 GMT 1, Thanks for the tip,
Supported with 100โฌ myself.
Thanks for the tip,
Supported with 100โฌ myself.
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ca
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by ca on Nov 20, 2019 15:21:10 GMT 1, I was thinking about it until I realized the billionaire d!ckhead who provided the painting is asking for half of the money (1m). Basically half your 100 goes to charity, the other to that guy who definitely doesnโt need it
I was thinking about it until I realized the billionaire d!ckhead who provided the painting is asking for half of the money (1m). Basically half your 100 goes to charity, the other to that guy who definitely doesnโt need it
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Pawel
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Pawel on Nov 20, 2019 15:32:27 GMT 1, I was thinking about it until I realized the billionaire d!ckhead who provided the painting is asking for half of the money (1m). Basically half your 100 goes to charity, the other to that guy who definitely doesnโt need it
There are 200k tickets, so it's 20m total value. 1m is 5%, not 50%. That said, I agree it's a weak move.
I was thinking about it until I realized the billionaire d!ckhead who provided the painting is asking for half of the money (1m). Basically half your 100 goes to charity, the other to that guy who definitely doesnโt need it There are 200k tickets, so it's 20m total value. 1m is 5%, not 50%. That said, I agree it's a weak move.
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ca
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by ca on Nov 20, 2019 16:07:54 GMT 1, I was thinking about it until I realized the billionaire d!ckhead who provided the painting is asking for half of the money (1m). Basically half your 100 goes to charity, the other to that guy who definitely doesnโt need it There are 200k tickets, so it's 20m total value. 1m is 5%, not 50%. That said, I agree it's a weak move.
My bad, was too early on my side of the world for maths
I was thinking about it until I realized the billionaire d!ckhead who provided the painting is asking for half of the money (1m). Basically half your 100 goes to charity, the other to that guy who definitely doesnโt need it There are 200k tickets, so it's 20m total value. 1m is 5%, not 50%. That said, I agree it's a weak move. My bad, was too early on my side of the world for maths
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Inknart on Nov 20, 2019 16:11:04 GMT 1, There are 200k tickets, so it's 20m total value. 1m is 5%, not 50%. That said, I agree it's a weak move. My bad, was too early on my side of the world for maths The rich get richer . Sure he will weasel a nice write off for the other half lol
There are 200k tickets, so it's 20m total value. 1m is 5%, not 50%. That said, I agree it's a weak move. My bad, was too early on my side of the world for maths The rich get richer . Sure he will weasel a nice write off for the other half lol
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ca
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by ca on Nov 20, 2019 16:12:20 GMT 1, My bad, was too early on my side of the world for maths The rich get richer . Sure he will weasel a nice write off for the other half lol
For sure and will probably brag to friends how philanthropic he is
My bad, was too early on my side of the world for maths The rich get richer . Sure he will weasel a nice write off for the other half lol For sure and will probably brag to friends how philanthropic he is
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 20, 2019 23:30:49 GMT 1, Let me sell my Picasso for market value and also get a huge charity write off. Lol
Let me sell my Picasso for market value and also get a huge charity write off. Lol
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d.r. perseus
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Pablo Picasso ๐ช๐ฆ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by d.r. perseus on Nov 20, 2019 23:38:42 GMT 1, O.0005 chance of winning with any one to ticket! I like those odds
O.0005 chance of winning with any one to ticket! I like those odds
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